tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post3647807786074116916..comments2024-03-24T18:59:07.813-07:00Comments on ZENOPUS ARCHIVES: Part 25: "Horrors are Naturals for Dungeons"Zenopus Archiveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-66016945325752841332014-04-17T10:50:07.920-07:002014-04-17T10:50:07.920-07:00Thanks for the reminder!Thanks for the reminder!Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-41653600822243128972014-03-21T20:17:41.903-07:002014-03-21T20:17:41.903-07:00Totally agree of course. I didn't have those O...Totally agree of course. I didn't have those OD&D sources until the last few years.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-59995837950777459992014-03-19T05:58:42.729-07:002014-03-19T05:58:42.729-07:00That's a good way to make do with the duplicat...That's a good way to make do with the duplicative info, and perhaps even what TSR intended. But it's pretty clear from OD&D Vol 2 and Greyhawk that the two different numbers were the original and alternate damage for the "huge weapons" of giants.Zenopus Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-34014787995801910892014-03-16T09:35:10.811-07:002014-03-16T09:35:10.811-07:00The capacious shoulder sack is referenced in the o...The capacious shoulder sack is referenced in the ogre description, but it's deletion makes the "giant-like sacks" comment more obscure.D. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08277670673178463645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-48100835220843857092014-03-14T19:17:35.912-07:002014-03-14T19:17:35.912-07:00I think it's worthwhile to note that Delta dis...I think it's worthwhile to note that Delta discovered <a href="http://deltasdnd.blogspot.com/2011/07/catapult-variation-in-chainmail.html" rel="nofollow">an error in the Chainmail catapult rules</a> that Holmes' giant rock-throwing rule is based on: you should use the <b>lower</b> of the two dice, not the higher.Desert Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13862907749003106864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-18023052950203523402014-03-14T10:31:54.374-07:002014-03-14T10:31:54.374-07:00I interpreted the damage discrepancies in just the...I interpreted the damage discrepancies in just the same way.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04006976826851198428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-27893691993524529692014-03-14T07:50:00.150-07:002014-03-14T07:50:00.150-07:00If find the Giants to be a really interesting case...If find the Giants to be a really interesting case... harks all the way back to Chainmail rules (skirting core to-hit-vs-AC) and almost the only places where the "inches" scale is used. <br /><br />Now I see the legacy of the damage discrepancies, but at the time I always interpreted the first column as melee damage, the last as missile damage (granted the stone giant text near the top of the column which says "throws rocks..."). In AD&D the melee damage copies the numbers from the first column, and has different missile damage on the scale of (but not identical to) the last column.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-91902092395369344942014-03-14T07:10:04.856-07:002014-03-14T07:10:04.856-07:00It's possible that Holmes left them out becaus...It's possible that Holmes left them out because it wasn't clear in OD&D exactly what they were. (Of course that didn't stop me from using OD&D gnolls in my B/X game, but nothing would.)Wayne R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04118962136054206381noreply@blogger.com