tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post6628148798158123970..comments2024-03-24T18:59:07.813-07:00Comments on ZENOPUS ARCHIVES: DCSIII Customized SauriansZenopus Archiveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-68544591882570042982013-10-28T19:21:23.374-07:002013-10-28T19:21:23.374-07:00I am not upset, Zenopus Archives. But my descript...I am not upset, Zenopus Archives. But my description was 'tepid' for a reason - namely, that an in-depth description of any kind regarding Dave's anguish over six month's wait was not necessary. I wasn't trying to document his 'final years' and a gloss-over was just what was called for.Steven Satakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03621308678106707775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-7060982856006677562013-10-28T18:24:25.813-07:002013-10-28T18:24:25.813-07:00Thanks for the comments, Steven. My apologies for ...Thanks for the comments, Steven. My apologies for any misunderstanding. I chose that quote from the Acaeum for the same reasons you give here. When I responded to Keena and said I agree, I was just referring to the comment about valuing the artists over the company. I should have been more clear about that.Zenopus Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-52572995187485598062013-10-27T12:06:31.446-07:002013-10-27T12:06:31.446-07:00Heh. Folks, I gave that synopsis just as it was b...Heh. Folks, I gave that synopsis just as it was because I didn't figure folks wanted to know any more about it than that. (BTW, the 1996 date is a typo - it was the summer of 1997). Dave went through a lotta shit while he camped out in that apartment - I didn't think foks were interested and since much of it was his own business, I decided that for the purposes of sketching an event already detailed elsewhere, y'all didn't NEED to know. <br /><br />I'm not going to trot out a juicy personal tidbit to 'establish my credentials' as a card-carrying true friend of David Sutherland III. I was an aquaintance of his - I don't think he had any friends up here. It was only six months. I kept his miniatures and books for over sixteen years and still have the lion's share in my possession. I kept his drafting table in a storage locker for ten years before finding a good home with a local artist. His bookcase, loaded with books bearing his signature, is the first thing you see when you come through the front door. <br /><br />I have sold off the stuff I know belongs in a collection somewhere. TopKat is probably the best guy on the planet to get this stuff, and he didn't quibble on paying me, either. As he will tell you (after a few hours looking over my miniatures), I don't collect these things - they accumulate while I pursue other goals. And I needed the money to fix my minivan.<br /><br />I don't have Dave's family's permission to discuss what he did and what he said and what he went through while up in Poulsbo. Not on a personal level, anyway. I've talked with TopKat about a few of the more personal incidents, but that was to establish a sort of provenance for the minis I was selling. Everyone likes 'the rest of the story'. But I am NOT putting it out on the web.<br /><br />God bless Dave. I hope he found happiness at last.Steven Satakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03621308678106707775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-7499257915949507032013-10-08T20:28:40.472-07:002013-10-08T20:28:40.472-07:00Amen.Amen.Perpetual Rolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01329782325401479458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-37108597392681452612013-10-08T20:08:45.115-07:002013-10-08T20:08:45.115-07:00I agree. Sutherland's my favorite old school T...I agree. Sutherland's my favorite old school TSR artist, and I try to honor him here whenever I get a chance.Zenopus Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4046247285022763255.post-52666460289266917812013-10-08T12:20:28.457-07:002013-10-08T12:20:28.457-07:00Well, here's another example of what happened ...Well, here's another example of what happened to this amazing man & his work... I wanted to offer quite a stronger view than the tepid description of DCS's final years "He tried and tried to get his job back when TSR was purchased by WOTC. Didn't pan out..." which we see above. The following quote is by Paul J. Stormberg, auction agent for the remains of Dave Sutherland's belongings.<br /><br />"Alas, TSR Hobbies was purchased in 1999 by Wizards of the Coast. Despite his unparalleled loyalty to TSR Hobbies the new company did not rehire Dave. In a particularly shameful moment for the roleplaying games industry, the company did not even give Dave so much as a single phone call.<br /><br />This was a particularly devastating, heartbreaking, blow to David, a person founded in loyalty. Those years were unkind to David and they took a terrible toll on him. Soon his health was in sharp decline. Doctors gave him a terminal prognosis.<br /><br />Work was sporadic for David during this time and he felt abandoned by the gaming industry. He was unhappy and unwell. He had given up wanting to live."<br /><br />My own loyalty is for the men and women who've produced this great work, such as Dave Sutherland, Jean Wells, Gary Gygax and a load of others who left under in auspicious circumstances, NOT mega game companies who don't care about real people or their inestimable talent.<br /><br />I've offered similar opinions here before and have appreciated being heard as most other blogs delete my comments.<br />Keena Nightelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00549579007070498050noreply@blogger.com